2005 Honda HSC (new NSX?)

aZnRYcEbOi · 10-15-2003, 12:47 AM

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=162105

i think it looks freakin awesome! f1 paddle shifters

marco0728 · 10-15-2003, 01:01 AM

that awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sanjay · 10-15-2003, 01:27 AM

i wonder if honda will cut the nsx for the NA market

Lord Dragon · 10-15-2003, 05:52 AM

Todd · 10-15-2003, 08:08 AM

Whoa... That does look nice... Someone at Honda really really really likes the Enzo design....

Are those side mirrors or cameras?

Lude01234567 · 10-15-2003, 08:10 AM

super sweet...

Mandy · 10-15-2003, 08:26 AM

RabidDogRacing · 10-15-2003, 08:31 AM

Oh my.........

We definately need a drool smiley.

Joel · 10-15-2003, 08:32 AM

Check those doors http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=162473

Joel · 10-15-2003, 08:42 AM

"Also, if you look at the HSC concept, you can see the engine;
http://auto.ascii24.com/issue/2003/1...ges/56714.html

Which looks very similar to the engine from the DualNote engine;
http://www.honda.co.jp/motorshow/200...p26/index.html "

Type-SR · 10-15-2003, 09:07 AM

I like it... but I would still want a 1st gen nsx

Type SR · 10-15-2003, 09:14 AM

I would want that and a 1st gen NSX....

I was just drooling over this car at NSXprime last nite... the guys over there are going crazy for this car (I guess they were worried that the next NSX was going to be kinda ****ty)

Type SR · 10-15-2003, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Todd96SRV
Whoa... That does look nice... Someone at Honda really really really likes the Enzo design....

Are those side mirrors or cameras?

And those are cameras... all of Honda's concepts at that car show apparently had them...

PhatMobile · 10-15-2003, 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by Lord-Dragon

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

mecheng · 10-15-2003, 09:58 AM

it better have at least 400hp or its still underpowerd.

OUZO Power · 10-15-2003, 10:05 AM

It states V6 300hp. Still underpowered. The NSX-R in Japan is 290hp. Not much of an improvment.

tRiX · 10-15-2003, 10:06 AM

now that looks sick!

ludeObsession · 10-15-2003, 10:18 AM

WOW. impressive

LastLude01 · 10-15-2003, 10:37 AM

discustingly sick! In a good way! lol

93SRVMAN · 10-15-2003, 10:46 AM

Wow.. Very nice.

mecheng · 10-15-2003, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OUZO Power
It states V6 300hp. Still underpowered. The NSX-R in Japan is 290hp. Not much of an improvment.

"Located mid-ship for better handling, the lightweight compact V6 engine is designed for high efficiency and an output in excess of 300 horsepower. A paddle-shift shift lever makes for instant gear changing. "

If its not near 400hp it will still never reach 'super car status'. Honda has to say FU to the hp rules, after all it costs $140,000.

If I had a $140,000 for a car I would expect it to have a lot more than 290hp.

STEEEZ · 10-15-2003, 10:58 AM

looks real good, underpowered though....

volt9 · 10-15-2003, 11:26 AM

Not bad.

Hey, I didn't notice anyone mention how much it weighs... Does anyone know?

How can you guys say it's underpowered if you don't know how much it weighs?

What if the car only weighs 2000lbs? (not likely, I know), but if it was, suddenly 300HP would be very decent. Still not 'supercar' numbers, true. But if they're not going to beef up the HP, maybe they can obtain more performance out of a lighter chassis. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Although I'm diggin' the clean lines and modern look of this car, I can't say that I like it as much as the 1st gen NSX. At least not yet.

mecheng · 10-15-2003, 11:43 AM

What would I buy with $140,000 you ask:

http://www2.us.porsche.com/english/u...t3/default.htm

Rear-mounted, 3.6 liters, 6 cylinder, rear-wheel drive, two-seater, coupe
MSRP: $99,900 (USA)
MSRP: $139,000 (CAN)

380 hp @ 7,400 rpm
285 lb-ft @ 5,000 rpm
0-62 mph: 4.3 sec
Top Track Speed: 190 mph

City: 15 mpg
Highway: 23 mpg

Joel · 10-15-2003, 11:44 AM

There's differing reports. From the pics it looks like the dualnote engine. And some webpages say it's a 3.5 not a 3.0

X-treme V-locity · 10-15-2003, 11:50 AM

man thats looooks amazing....as far as looks....honda seems to comeback for some crazy designs again....

but what the kind of power is that?....doesnt the G35C have 280hp and such....and tis $140,000 car has 290hp

dam throw 2 engines in there if u have to

Lord Dragon · 10-15-2003, 02:55 PM

In my opinion, they should make sure that it has in excess of 500hp to compete with the Ford GT, otherwise why spend the cash if you can get more for the same price(depending on how much they would sell it for of course)

Jarek · 10-15-2003, 03:03 PM

I just love how everyone is fixated on the hp number..

Todd · 10-15-2003, 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by mecheng
What would I buy with $140,000 you ask:
http://www2.us.porsche.com/english/u...t3/default.htm

Me too. Total drivers car. 911 C4, drive it all year round.

OUZO Power · 10-15-2003, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Quick_lude
I just love how everyone is fixated on the hp number..

It's a matter of keeping up with the competition. If not beet them atleast match them. In the 90's honda set the standard and others tried to catch them. Time for them to step up again.

93blacksrv · 10-15-2003, 03:38 PM

I just wet myself!!!!!

Jarek · 10-15-2003, 03:39 PM

But what if the NSX weighs in at 2300lbs and 350hp? All these supercars with huge hp numbers, how reliable are they all year round? The big selling point for the NSX was and should be the fact that it's as reliable as any Accord/Civic out there.

XxXPreludeXxX · 10-15-2003, 03:44 PM

very nice...... verrrrrrrry

OUZO Power · 10-15-2003, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Quick_lude
But what if the NSX weighs in at 2300lbs and 350hp? All these supercars with huge hp numbers, how reliable are they all year round? The big selling point for the NSX was and should be the fact that it's as reliable as any Accord/Civic out there.

I beg to differ. The NSX was always branded and sold as a supercar. Back in the day when it came out only the F40/F50 Could compete with it. Because the curent one is outdated that doesn't mean it's not a supercar.

Honda will promote it as such. Have fun driving that thing through the canadian winter.

Jarek · 10-15-2003, 04:32 PM

I'm sure if it had the ground clearance it would make it with flying colours. My point is that even if Honda decides to market it as a supercar, I bet you it will much more reliable as a daily driver than any Ferrari or Lamborghini..

Falcon147 · 10-15-2003, 04:51 PM

In order to buy a super car you had better have enough money for two. Thats what its going to cost you in expenses for it. The nsx is as close as you can get to..Buy it- Change the oil and for get it.

mecheng · 10-15-2003, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Quick_lude
But what if the NSX weighs in at 2300lbs and 350hp? All these supercars with huge hp numbers, how reliable are they all year round? The big selling point for the NSX was and should be the fact that it's as reliable as any Accord/Civic out there.

What IF?? Well it doesn't weight 2300lbs, the current version weighs 3148lbs. I highly doubt it will be any lighter than the current version. Cars usually get heavier over time.

It would be a bargain if it were under $100,000, but as it stands its way too expensive. It won't sell at $140,000.

Porsche btw: is consistently in the top 5 for JD Power ahead of Acura.

yoyo1580 · 10-15-2003, 06:24 PM

A cheap man's Ferrari...

not my cup of tea

TraKtion · 10-15-2003, 10:12 PM

why is everyone getting excited over a concept, guaranteed its not gonna look like that.

Joel · 10-15-2003, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by TraKtion
why is everyone getting excited over a concept, guaranteed its not gonna look like that.

well the s2000 was a concept that went right to market

10-15-2003, 12:47 AM	#1
aZnRYcEbOi GUEST Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 6,804	2005 Honda HSC (new NSX?) http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=162105 i think it looks freakin awesome! f1 paddle shifters

10-15-2003, 09:07 AM	#11
Type-SR TPC Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: GTA Posts: 8,319	I like it... but I would still want a 1st gen nsx __________________

10-15-2003, 10:05 AM	#16
OUZO Power Gate 7 Ultras Fan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Αθηνα-Καλαμάτα-Κορώνη-Χαρακοποιό Posts: 23,510	It states V6 300hp. Still underpowered. The NSX-R in Japan is 290hp. Not much of an improvment. __________________ - 05 Honda Odyssey EX-L NAV/RES - 01 Honda Prelude Special Edition (Sneezing at 6.5psi between shifts) - 99 Honda CR-V Special Edition AWD - 93 Honda Civic DX Coupe

10-15-2003, 10:58 AM	#22
STEEEZ DUKE ® Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pon Di Gaza Posts: 24,521	looks real good, underpowered though.... __________________ "When you live for others' opinions, you are dead."

10-15-2003, 11:26 AM	#23
volt9 Intelligent Monkey Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississauga Posts: 193	Power / weight ? Not bad. Hey, I didn't notice anyone mention how much it weighs... Does anyone know? How can you guys say it's underpowered if you don't know how much it weighs? What if the car only weighs 2000lbs? (not likely, I know), but if it was, suddenly 300HP would be very decent. Still not 'supercar' numbers, true. But if they're not going to beef up the HP, maybe they can obtain more performance out of a lighter chassis. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Although I'm diggin' the clean lines and modern look of this car, I can't say that I like it as much as the 1st gen NSX. At least not yet.

10-15-2003, 01:01 AM	#2
marco0728 GUEST Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Markham Posts: 483	that awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10-15-2003, 01:27 AM	#3
Sanjay GUEST Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 6,317	i wonder if honda will cut the nsx for the NA market

10-15-2003, 08:10 AM	#6
Lude01234567 Chief Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Top Secret Posts: 1,291	super sweet...

10-15-2003, 08:26 AM	#7
Mandy Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,664

10-15-2003, 08:31 AM	#8
RabidDogRacing Resident Octogenerian Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Downtown T.O. Posts: 1,135	Oh my......... We definately need a drool smiley.

10-15-2003, 08:32 AM	#9
Joel Eleventeen Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: East Village, Manhattan Posts: 21,842	Check those doors http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=162473

10-15-2003, 08:42 AM	#10
Joel Eleventeen Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: East Village, Manhattan Posts: 21,842	"Also, if you look at the HSC concept, you can see the engine; http://auto.ascii24.com/issue/2003/1...ges/56714.html Which looks very similar to the engine from the DualNote engine; http://www.honda.co.jp/motorshow/200...p26/index.html "

10-15-2003, 09:14 AM	#12
Type SR GUEST Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kitchener Posts: 898	I would want that and a 1st gen NSX.... I was just drooling over this car at NSXprime last nite... the guys over there are going crazy for this car (I guess they were worried that the next NSX was going to be kinda ****ty)

10-15-2003, 09:58 AM	#15
mecheng Life Begins at 4800rpm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mississauga Posts: 1,466	it better have at least 400hp or its still underpowerd.

10-15-2003, 10:06 AM	#17
tRiX GUEST Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,284	now that looks sick!

10-15-2003, 10:18 AM	#18
ludeObsession 99 Prelude SH Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Woodbridge Posts: 4,470	WOW. impressive

10-15-2003, 10:37 AM	#19
LastLude01 Probationary Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hell Posts: 6,614	discustingly sick! In a good way! lol

10-15-2003, 11:44 AM	#25
Joel Eleventeen Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: East Village, Manhattan Posts: 21,842	There's differing reports. From the pics it looks like the dualnote engine. And some webpages say it's a 3.5 not a 3.0

10-15-2003, 11:50 AM	#26
X-treme V-locity GUEST Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: T.O. Posts: 3,350	man thats looooks amazing....as far as looks....honda seems to comeback for some crazy designs again.... but what the kind of power is that?....doesnt the G35C have 280hp and such....and tis $140,000 car has 290hp dam throw 2 engines in there if u have to

10-15-2003, 03:38 PM	#31
93blacksrv Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: GIRLINGTON Posts: 1,757	I just wet myself!!!!!

10-15-2003, 03:44 PM	#33
XxXPreludeXxX EMA Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: T. Posts: 9,530	very nice...... verrrrrrrry

10-15-2003, 04:51 PM	#36
Falcon147 GUEST Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ? Posts: 1,598	In order to buy a super car you had better have enough money for two. Thats what its going to cost you in expenses for it. The nsx is as close as you can get to..Buy it- Change the oil and for get it.

10-15-2003, 06:24 PM	#38
yoyo1580 Super Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Mississauga Posts: 575	A cheap man's Ferrari... not my cup of tea

10-15-2003, 10:12 PM	#39
TraKtion 92' still does it 4 me Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hamilton Posts: 8,880	why is everyone getting excited over a concept, guaranteed its not gonna look like that.